Explaining The Commandos.

Discussion in 'Clone Wars' started by Raze, Jan 8, 2017.

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  1. Ybok

    Ybok New-Member

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    I'm irrelevant on this post, but that literally so relatable I almost fainted. Shout out to mace and sag for getting my tools my weapons for providing courses for my dudes. 11/10 would harass again.
     
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  2. Fragger

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    Funny because when I was in fucking Shadow you flat out fucking threatened me. The only reason I didn't speak up about it was because James said it would change, so no Are you "Respectful?" Hell no. Now I don't give a damn about climb swep and only climb swep, no. I saw you in Shadow, you literally made it into a fucking bunch of staff (No offense to the staff team) that literally does everything, that wasn't nor was it ever your job. Literally you ordered your guys to fucking go on the third floor and kidnap Navy, like Christ you wonder why a large majority despises every move you make, its because it harms the overall outcome of the situation.

    And finally, though I do respect everyone in the military, nobody... And I mean fucking nobody. Gives a flying fuck about about military tactics on a goddamn Gmod server it'd be like me going on a fucking Roblox server and saying "Hey I'm in ROTC" or some shit like that and expecting to get treated better. Honestly take your JROTC and ROTC Bullshit and shove it up your ass, and until you're in the military actually serving whether it be in the US, or any other country nobody gives a fuck. (My two sense on this shit because everyone on this community tends to fucking brag about that shit. And for the people who don't brag and don't act better thank you.)

    inB4 I get butt fucked by forum staff, the entirety of the Commandos, Shadow Squad, and their buddies #FuckinRIPShadowRP

    EDIT: Also I'm not trying to be disrespectful for this, just I have seen this happen for like what maybe two years now? I have literally seen people backstab people for a fucking Gmod rank, like full on plant shit on them to get them banned. Next I've seen people brag about being in the military, brag about being in a military family, than I've personally along with multiple others have been full threatened to shut up or you'll be punished. Also I am sadly going to be yelled at because of this. But for all future warning this shit has been going on for a long ass time pretty annoying. So yeah... Built up anger? Idk, if it comes to it delete my post but leave the fucking thread open.
     
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  3. Clint

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    Personally I've been through commandos a few times and it gets very repetitive and boring so I imagine people will leave and open new spots for potentially better candidates who actually go through tryouts and are not handpicked by their friends. Just give it some time and it will fix itself. If it really gets super out of hand then bring it up with the commanders.

    (Mess with the best,die like the rest) <--------- Now that's edgy
     
  4. Miller

    Miller Forum Senior Moderator/CW Mod/CW Gamemaster
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    Forum Staff input. This thread will stay open as long as it remains a valid argument. If it turns into people shitting on eachother it will be closed.
     
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  5. Ybok

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    That's the way it goes man. I've only ever done well on the server because I was funny as shit, everything else and I mean everything else doesn't count for anything. For example Texas started the whole thread about jones so we could maybe get a second shot at something, but you know how that went. Gotta roll with the punches my guy.
     
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  6. Guardian

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    damn right, your leader of delta so you had no authority to let people in omega
     
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  7. Raze

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    Never let anyone in Omega, it was in a document that was voted, and a representative of Omega was present. But this was flipped and has been dealt with, but thank you for your concern.
     
  8. procommando

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    Here is the thing Vector(I was fixer by the way),while I agree yes we needed more time,Raze did not even give a flying fuck,he did not even think for a moment to try and re-evaluate us,or give us try outs a second time or,or see what we can do and put the ones that are qualified(only 2 or 1)into commando trainees,instead he just demoted us.Yes we have less experience but the fact that we did not even get a chance is bullshit,no ones coming on the server and thinking "Ok,im gonna get this position but first im gonna work for months to get into this one job(infiltrators),finally get in it,stay in it for a while,and then eventually im gonna be a commando"(Which personally by the way,I have been in 187ths as a CT,and then Engineer,I have been in ARF,I have been in Galactic Marines as a tempest and I have been in 501st as a CT and a paratrooper,now I am in Shadow squad and already a specialist and may possibly become the leader of the specialists).

    We should have been given a proper chance instead of saying "Huh well obviously these guys over here are more qualified so fuck the current commandos im getting rid of them and not even going to take a look at them,nor even speak to them".I was dedicated,once I became a commando trainee(which required me to be good with leadership,I was told i did it flawlessly and I did not even have a mic,others would agree as well)I started getting on the server daily and for hours until I went to bed,and I would have kept it that way,but I did not do that for one day because my PC was fucked up.And even if it took me multiple weeks to become a Commando I would have gotten on daily,or at least multiple times a week for hours at a time and I would work hard for that position,but no I guess we don't get that option,only staff members,a lot of buddies of Raze(but not all are buddies),and all,if not mainly only members from shadow squad,mostly officers and infiltrators got in.What does that say,that says to new players you have to be good buddies with the Commando leader to get in because they can pretty much purge a whole batallion of commandos and replace them,or you have to be a staff member to get to those good roles you want.
     
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  9. The Fezz

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    -So much fucking text.
    -I think y'all have to remember that we are playing a game.

    That's my input here.
    And keep it clean, respectful, blah, blah, blah. What Chroma and Miller said.
     
  10. alaughingchip

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    Hot damn sounds like every squad of commando's we've had so far, but with the catch you're missing: you didn't earn DICK Your swuad members didn't even hit trainee showing that there was no effort in even achieving such a job on the server, which infuriates everyone before you who led that squad with dignity and respect, now, there is nothing left.
     
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  11. Goos

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    Hey. Look even the minge is getting into it, woo this a spicy one.

    Really, there is no best unit in any Garry's Mod, or Arma III military roleplay server.

    We've all had our first time, seeing the units move across the battlefield with ease, crushing the droids/covenant/insurgents/xeno/etc. with dominance and superiority, wanting to get into the game because "Horry Shit its actually cool".

    But as you climb the ranks, you also learn about the tricks people use to manipulate the enemies. The truths that these enemies are actually really easy, but you got a shit gun, or shit health. You also learn about how the people on the top want to play their little god games with their units.

    I can't believe you really think, "my unit will be the best because we will train harder". Nothing will fruit out of it, and the only way you could really improve anybodies skills is by adding members, more guns. It's what people actually do in real life. More guns (usually) = More battles won. A game cannot ever reproduce the exceptions.

    Motivation, hesitation to fire/kill, fatigue, peripheral vision, and gut feeling are what turn the tides of battle if the enemies are locked. You cannot "improve" with laps around the hanger. You cannot "improve" with little simulations of breach and clear. The character your playing already knows how to shoot without hesitation, can run forever, and knows how to maneuver his torso around quickly to look around corners and the such. If he gets shot he doesn't fall until he gets completely killed. If he is pumped with some green liquid he is restored to full health.

    The gamemasters with their little toolguns and physguns cannot reproduce the unexpected, apart from the "add more enemies" trick. And also, on a side note, gamemasters lead us through a track, without any space for the actual leaders on the ground to maneuver around, or gain tactical advantages. Events are one track and deviating from the story, or making choices on how to actually take out the base is out of the question. That's what bring the people out of it, creating a Rank RP instead of a Starwars RP.

    Back to you. I know you will consider my place, saying "This dude's a minge. He can't tell me shit". Well, I have experience, with this community and others. I've risen the ranks, both staff and in game, on multiple servers of ASG/Axiom/whatever this weird shit is. I've seen the same shit 1000 times over, and its sad, because you know the fix but you also know how hard it is to implement. I bet everyone knows the fix to our little issues, but we all know there are certain things to remain, and too many people to face. Hopefully I gave you the knowledge, Mr. Server Admin, maybe you can pick up where I and many others fell off.

    Good day,
    Goos
     
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  12. Gamzrok24

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    That's why I'd like to eventually become a GM. I love dynamic combat and events, and strive to make events that way.
     
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  13. Raze

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    You show me you absolutely know Nothing about anything. Add more members, Add more guns? Right... that is why we have Elite Special Forces consisting of less then .5% of the population of a country.

    Battle of Mogadishu (Black Hawk Down) 160 men took on over 5,000 insurgents..

    You know nothing, so speak nothing.
     
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  14. Osiris Lord Of Memes

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    I will just add this on as a neutral statement to that. Because I personally know no one truely cares about what other people's family was or what they do except if its really extraordinary (like your dad works at nasa and thats why you somehow have 5/gbps up/download speeds).

    Story time with Osiris:
    I actually do come from a military family, I dont know much from before my grandfather as he was an immigrant during the great depression/WW I. But he made it all the way to the position of being COLONEL in the army. A legitimate COLONEL and he ended up "retiring" from the armed forces to help the community. My father was USMC and tons of missions around the world (too many to list, but one included getting in a fight with some Russians in a Taiwanese bar and having aussies come in to break up the fight), and his father too was in the military (although I forget how high he got in the ranks, but he was in his 80s when he passed so he was probably in WW II). I was going to go into the military also, took the ASVAB as the benchmark to see where I could go and I choose National Guard because I thought it would be the least likely to be deployed in case we were going to fight Russia. (back when we had the scares in 2014 with Russia getting very hostile). My scores were high enough that I could have had ANY job in the National Guard, but I was turned down because of my scoliosis, which even though it never restricted me and I played football and was used to carrying heavy loads, they didn't want to risk me injuring my back in basic.
     
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    I'm gone for a week and a half and these kind of meme start popping up....
     
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  16. Raze

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    I mean... my men and I know each other very well. Our family and history has impact on the way we treat each other, and how we react to situations. You know for a fact people don't care, you hangout with some shitty people. By the by, nice story. Glad you attempted to serve our country.
     
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    No, you don't understand what he's saying. He's saying skills equal nothing in-game. Everyone has a basic amount of skill, and only guns matter in this game.

    For example, I'm much more skilled than half of Edge Squad, yet they can take me out with a single shot from their OP-AF shotgun while I hit them twice with my stupid DC-15A. It's not about skill, it's about guns.
     
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  18. Raze

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    How you position yourself, the angle at which you fire in coordination with your teammates, Coordination between teammates, leading a target, location of target engagement. These things all take skill... and all are taken into account when in combat. Because the simple don't see this, or care to see this, Is absolutely no problem of mine. I will do what i perceive as best, and what simply best shows results in game.
     
  19. Goos

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    Lol I was talking about GMod. If you actually read the post I said that you cannot replicate reality in GMod. Arma gets close, but no game can actually replicate real battle.

    Also, in major military conflicts, (not just battles), more guns usually wins. The exceptions are either via motivation, exceptional training, or battlefield advantage. The three of which has no bearing in GMod or Arma (to an extent).

    Again to restate what I said, the person your playing as in GMod can aim perfectly on one spot that you can move, reload consistently at the same speed, has a perfect gun that doesn't jam, stays perfectly in shape, and can face his body into different directions very quickly. In Arma it's a bit more skill based, but again, this is a GMod community.

    Don't be so mean as to say I know nothing. I was very polite at the end of my first post. We should have a civilized conversation, not a flame war. :)
     
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  20. Osiris Lord Of Memes

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    Thanks mate, and true, I do have some questionable people in my group such as pocket and prophet for example (fun to hang with in TS, but not good for server)
     
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